Concept art tools

[Ironfangz]

This is a question to Pascal.

Pascal, you make those concept art with a drawing tablet. Ive heard from Bram that you use a Wacom cintiq right? I think I will also buy a drawing tablet.
I've looked for some information about it. I think I will buy a Wacom Intuos5 touch S. Before I buy it, I want your opinion about it. Is it a good one? Is a bigger size better?

[Bram]

Pascal has a day off, but to make sure I don't forget to remind him to take a look here I've left him a note.

[Ironfangz]

Hahaha thank you Bram

[mrBrander]

I'M BACK!

The wacom u mentioned is more than sufficient! It's a pretty awesome one to be honest.
At work I use a Intuos 4 and at home I have a crummy old intuos 2 even! haha

At the end of the day, it isn't really about the tools u use. It's just a tool. I can make the same quality work on my old wacom as on my newer workplace wacom.

Just keep in mind that it needs some getting used to, don't dismis it when it doesn't work for you in the beginning. It's a matter of training your eye/hand coordination. Your hand is drawing in a different place than where you are looking. So just keep at it.

I'm keen to see what you'll be making, just post your work on these forums and I'll try to crit and comment as much as you'd like.

btw, today I'll be going all traditional, with brushpens and markers!

Cheers!

[Ironfangz]

Thank you very much. I think I'll buy one soon. The very first drawings I shall make are drawings of Pier, because he's kinda cool and not that very hard to draw. Thanks again

[Mark]

Looking forward to some fan-art then

[Ironfangz]

I finally got a cheap stylus pen for Ipad. I downloaded a drawing app, Sketchbook pro I believe. I spend the whole afternoon to this.

WARNING: THIS IS NO FAN-ART!
It is maybe hard to see but it isn't Pier...




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[Bram]

Wow that's actually very cool. Nice!
How did you like drawing like that?

[Mark]

Wow, great job!
Are you sure it is not Pier?

[USSGreatePier]

Hey, nice job! You should redo the Pier drawing in this style... Add a bit of color and stuff...

[Ironfangz]

Wow that's actually very cool. Nice!
How did you like drawing like that?

Haha thank you
Well I actually learned this all by myself. I have never had a teacher who taught me to draw like this. My grandma was also a great artist. She drew flowers and birds high detailed and super realistic.

Could you please ask Pascal to criticize this drawing tomorrow?

[Ironfangz]

Hey, nice job! You should redo the Pier drawing in this style... Add a bit of color and stuff...

Thank you!
Yes, I was actually thinking about it right now. When I've got time (maybe in the weekend)

[Bram]

Haha thank you
Well I actually learned this all by myself. I have never had a teacher who taught me to draw like this. My grandma was also a great artist. She drew flowers and birds high detailed and super realistic.

Could you please ask Pascal to criticize this drawing tomorrow?

I actually meant "hoe is het je bevallen?" Drawing on an iPad instead of paper I mean.

I've asked Pascal. Should be here any minute now.

[Ironfangz]

I actually meant "hoe is het je bevallen?" Drawing on an iPad instead of paper I mean.

I've asked Pascal. Should be here any minute now.

Oh okay
Well, It was very frustrating to not being able to draw straight lines. Like you can see in the drawing, all the black lines are bundles of curved lines. These bundles are in the direction that I wanted

[mrBrander]

Heya Iron!

Lookin pretty good up there! It's hard to really critique, since I don't really know what you can or cannot do with the Ipad and a stylus, so I will keep my crits more on the drawing basics side then about the colouring and lineweight.

There are some obvious weird things going on with her hands offcourse. But hands are tricky and take time to really master. I really like the mood u tried to capture here. But I do feel it could've been pushed a little more. Her pose is kinda stiff right now. to really convey the feeling of her standing in the icy wind, u could try and arch her back more, let her fall backwards, as if she's leaning into the wind really. have her coat wrap around her and sway in the wind a bit more. With a drawing like this, that is all about mood, try and go overboard and really push it. it will make for a more dynamic and interesting picture to look at. U could also add some leaves and some more snow flying around her aswell.

U should take a look at my good friend Pascal Campion's work. it's a totaly different style, but he's amazingly good at conveying these kind of emotions and moods. http://pascalcampion.blogspot.nl/

And try to draw the whole figure, I know it's tempting to drawing from the waist up, but with this, having her lean into the wind, a full body shot would look more convincing. OR if u want to focus on her face more, really go up and close. This seems to be more of a middleground between those two, which is always the worst.

Also try and watch your proportions, her had is way too big. And we could argue about syle and stylistic choices here, but style is something that will come natural, when u actually know all the basics about proprtions and anatomy. This is why drawing lines of action and geometric shapes for your proportions is so important.

But, like I said before, it's pretty awesome. Just push things a little more!

I will try and see if I can sqeeuze out a little "paint over", later on tonight.

Cheers!

[Ironfangz]

And try to draw the whole figure, I know it's tempting to drawing from the waist up, but with this, having her lean into the wind, a full body shot would look more convincing. OR if u want to focus on her face more, really go up and close. This seems to be more of a middleground between those two, which is always the worst.

Also try and watch your proportions, her had is way too big.

But, like I said before, it's pretty awesome. Just push things a little more!

I will try and see if I can sqeeuze out a little "paint over", later on tonight.

Cheers!

Thank you very much for your response! I think that when I keep these things in mind, I can draw a lot better.

But I have a couple of questions I would really like to know,
What is wrong with drawing up from the waist? I hate to draw below the kneecaps.
Do the colours match? I created this girl a couple of months ago. This was the first time I drew her in full colour.
How could I make sure that she is arching in a "natural" way?

I can agree with you that the head is too big. And the hands too small.

[mrBrander]

Thank you very much for your response! I think that when I keep these things in mind, I can draw a lot better.

But I have a couple of questions I would really like to know,
What is wrong with drawing up from the waist? I hate to draw below the kneecaps.
Do the colours match? I created this girl a couple of months ago. This was the first time I drew her in full colour.
How could I make sure that she is arching in a "natural" way?

I can agree with you that the head is too big. And the hands too small.

There is nothing wrong with drawing from the waist up per se. But, when depicting a scene like this, there are better compositions u could think of and use. And when u say, u hate drawing below the kneecaps is a clear indication u NEED to draw full characters. Get out fo your comfort zone and explore. U won't get very far with just drawings from the waist up.

The colours are ok. Like I said, I don't know the specifics of the program and device u used, so it is hard to say what u could do better with it. In terms of colour choices. Thats also something u could push a little more. Try and add Blue hues to the picture as a whole, right now, her coat is blue, her scarf is red, her shirt is yellow-ish, etc. U don't have to actually use those actual colours. Our brains are pretty good at filling in the gaps.

Like I said, I will try and do a quick paint-over!

Cheers!

[Ironfangz]

There is nothing wrong with drawing from the waist up per se. But, when depicting a scene like this, there are better compositions u could think of and use. And when u say, u hate drawing below the kneecaps is a clear indication u NEED to draw full characters. Get out fo your comfort zone and explore. U won't get very far with just drawings from the waist up.

Like I said, I will try and do a quick paint-over!

Cheers!

Hmm, yes... I think I want too master feets and legs too... But I have to practice for a very loooong time. I think I'll make quick drawings of legs in my school books

Cheers you too

[USSGreatePier]

I think I'll make quick drawings of legs in my school books

The only good purpose for school books is doodling... I've done a lot of that (and I still suck at it, haha) I've done plenty of drawing back in the day, but mostly on an ancient computer with a simple mouse using a drawing program which had 16 colors. Yes; 16. You could customize them, but 16 was the limit... You could draw lines and circles and stuff, but most pixels were individually... pixeled Ah, the good old days... I even made it into the art section of a computer magazine 3 or 4 times...

Back to the point: school was doodle time and school books are perfectly suitable for that... (I remember when my history teacher made me Typp-Ex all of my doodles once, haha)...

[Bram]

Aren't those books rented? They always checked mine when I handed them in at the end of the year

School tables are never checked though...

[mrBrander]

I just had a binder with 1/3's of writing paper and 2/3's of drawing paper. It might seem like I was writing down notes, but I sure wasn't!

[mrBrander]

a real quick 2 min paintover to illustrate my point about pushing your shapes and forms. Anatomy is all over the place, but the shapes show what I mean.

[Ironfangz]

Aren't those books rented? They always checked mine when I handed them in at the end of the year

School tables are never checked though...

I meant my "schriften"

[Ironfangz]

a real quick 2 min paintover to illustrate my point about pushing your shapes and forms. Anatomy is all over the place, but the shapes show what I mean

Yes... I know what you mean. Her waist is pushing forward while her upper body is still in place. But you have to know that it is not storming. It is just a harder blow of wind. It had to look cold and a little bit windy. But yes, maybe could her waist being pushed a little more. This drawing is currently one of my best drawings. I am not going to improve this drawings with your tips. But I'll keep them in mind.

And again, thank you very much XD

[USSGreatePier]

I meant my "schriften"

So did I, Bram, and also those "werkboeken"

And besides...